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Kevin Karhan :verified:

For those who don't know the size of the problem:

In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz.

And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #Telegram, #Signal, #WhatApp, #WeChat, #QQ and #LineMessenger at the same time on their machine, and you can imagine that this will make entry-level desktops already scream harder than if someone were to loop the Lost Coast benchmark on them...

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps. My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal [¹](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036), #Telegram, #Discord [²](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114865723904157014), #WhatsApp, #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, etc. aside: - *WHY* is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite? - *WHY* does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU they can?? This problem ain't new and *already got [solved for corporate social media](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862619013462466) ages ago!* (Not to mention actually good messengers!) - And no, [bridges](https://toots.ch/@dalai/114862754556459439) *[don't](https://swecyb.com/@troed/114862774972645542) count*! - I mean `API 0` - [style](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685423773959519) access because obviously [none of the platforms](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685414638522984) will *allow, endorse or support such an endeavour* and [*actively fight the developers and users*](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685441496803574) ! So yeah, consider this a call for a @gajim@fosstodon.org / #Gajim or @pidgin@fosstodon.org / #Pidgin *for garbage platforms!* - Cuz back in the day we had *way worse messengers* yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single *"phat" client*! - Can we please get that back? #api0 #Enshittification
#bloat#webapps#cryptojacking
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Miguel Afonso Caetano

"Today, noyb has filed GDPR complaints against AliExpress, TikTok and WeChat. All three tech companies have failed to comply with access requests under Article 15 GDPR. This makes it impossible for European users to exercise their fundamental right to privacy, to find out how their personal data is being processed – and if the companies actually comply with other GDPR provisions, for example regarding data transfers. EU law usually allows users to get a full copy of their data."

noyb.eu/en/how-tiktok-aliexpre

noyb.euHow TikTok, AliExpress & WeChat ignore your GDPR rightsAll three companies failed to adequately answer the complainants' access requests
#EU#China#DataProtection
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YongZS永値生 :misskey: :paricafelogo:

微信的AI，至於這麼敏感嗎？​:A_BlobCat_GlareZoom:​
就因爲有「追求民主，反對獨裁」和「和平請願」，連馬敘倫的信息都要屏蔽？
太可笑了！你在怕什麼？​:BlobCat_Clown:​
WeChat's AI, does it really need to be this sensitive? ​:A_BlobCat_GlareZoom:​
Just because of phrases like “pursuing democracy and opposing dictatorship” and “peaceful petition”, even information about Ma Xu-lun is being blocked?
So ridiculous! What are you afraid of? ​:BlobCat_Clown:​

#china #wechat #ai #artificialintelligence #chinese #censorship #censor #blocked #democracy #dictatorship #petition #中國 #人工智能 #人工智慧 #中国 #中国式叙事 #微信 #審查 #屏蔽词 #审查 #中國特色 #中国特色 #民进 #民進 #民主 #獨裁 #独裁 #請願 #请愿

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@ejim @ulrichkelber das macht zentralisierte Lösungen egal ob @signalapp / #Signal, #WhatsApp, #Telegram, #WeChat, #QQ, #Line, etc. nicht weniger falsch!

  • Wer #NSAbook nutzt hat diebKontrolle über seine Daten bedingungslos aufgegeben!

infosec.space/@kkarhan/1146959

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)@derekmorr@mastodon.social > Let it go, already. No one uses MobileCoin. You can’t even find an exchange to buy it. Then why does @signalapp@mastodon.world still have that shit in it? @Mer__edith@mastodon.world could've pulled that #Shitcoin yet refuses to do do! > The Cloud Act is a non-issue. Signal doesn’t have data on users, so they can’t be forced to disclose it. That's literally wrong! - #Signal not only collects #PII in the form of a #PhoneNumher but explicitly is *able and willing* to use that to dsicriminate against users and restrict app functionality based off their presumed juristiction. There is no *"legitimate interest"* for.doing so nor any legal mandate to do so (unless we excuse the ehole #MobileCoin-#Scam!) > It’s been 30 years, and no one uses xmpp. Let it go. Wrong again. Otherwise there wouldn't be thriving ecosystems and Apps to this day. It's just that corporate shills refuse to acknowledge that Signal - like all centralized, proprietary, #SingleVendor and/or #SingleProvider kessengers before and after - will inevitably die as their business model is not sustainable. Sake with #ICQ really. The only exceptions are those that abolish #privacy for #profit, integrate *actually working payments* or sellout to a #cyberfacist #government (all those apply to #WeChat!) > It’s shocking that people who claim to care about security and privacy push niche apps with terrible UX and no PFS like Delta or XMPP instead of the only private messenger with any real market share, Signal. You know what's shocking to me: People who are unable or rather unwilling.to acknowledge that Signal is garbage and it's requirement for a #PhoneNumber kills any #privacy benefits it may have on paper by virtue of being at best pseudonymous (assuming the userd don't live in a juristiction that demands *"#KYC"* for even prepaid #SIM cards (ime. #Germany) or god forbid even #IMEI|s (i.e. #Turkey has a literal allowlist that'll kick any device off it's MNOs after 90 days within 365 days. - The #UScentric approach to #privacy and #threats makes Signal absolutely useless in many cases, and I do speak here from experience. I'd rather help people onboard #XMPP+#OMEMO like @monocles@monocles.social and/or @gajim@fosstodon.org or #PGP/MIME like @delta@chaos.social & @thunderbird@mastodon.online (incl. setting them up with #Orbot / #TorBrowserBundle / @tails_live@venera.social so their traffic gets through @torproject@mastodon.social and doesn't provide any useable IP addresses. - *I've literally been there and done that!* As for #Sustainability, providers like https://monocles.eu finance themselves by subscriptions (starting at €2 p.m.) which people can pay *fully anonymous* using #CashByMail and #Monero on top of common payment methods (i.e. SEPA wire transfer)... - So even if you think *"#monocles is a #honeypot"* that is mitigateable ciz unlike with Signal you can *choose your own client, choose a different provider & exervise self-custody of all tue keys!*
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@derekmorr

Let it go, already. No one uses MobileCoin. You can’t even find an exchange to buy it.

Then why does @signalapp still have that shit in it? @Mer__edith could've pulled that #Shitcoin yet refuses to do do!

The Cloud Act is a non-issue. Signal doesn’t have data on users, so they can’t be forced to disclose it.

That's literally wrong!

  • #Signal not only collects #PII in the form of a #PhoneNumher but explicitly is able and willing to use that to dsicriminate against users and restrict app functionality based off their presumed juristiction. There is no "legitimate interest" for.doing so nor any legal mandate to do so (unless we excuse the ehole #MobileCoin-#Scam!)

It’s been 30 years, and no one uses xmpp. Let it go.

Wrong again. Otherwise there wouldn't be thriving ecosystems and Apps to this day. It's just that corporate shills refuse to acknowledge that Signal - like all centralized, proprietary, #SingleVendor and/or #SingleProvider kessengers before and after - will inevitably die as their business model is not sustainable. Sake with #ICQ really. The only exceptions are those that abolish #privacy for #profit, integrate actually working payments or sellout to a #cyberfacist #government (all those apply to #WeChat!)

It’s shocking that people who claim to care about security and privacy push niche apps with terrible UX and no PFS like Delta or XMPP instead of the only private messenger with any real market share, Signal.

You know what's shocking to me: People who are unable or rather unwilling.to acknowledge that Signal is garbage and it's requirement for a #PhoneNumber kills any #privacy benefits it may have on paper by virtue of being at best pseudonymous (assuming the userd don't live in a juristiction that demands "#KYC" for even prepaid #SIM cards (ime. #Germany) or god forbid even #IMEI|s (i.e. #Turkey has a literal allowlist that'll kick any device off it's MNOs after 90 days within 365 days.

  • The #UScentric approach to #privacy and #threats makes Signal absolutely useless in many cases, and I do speak here from experience.

I'd rather help people onboard #XMPP+#OMEMO like @monocles and/or @gajim or #PGP/MIME like @delta & @thunderbird (incl. setting them up with #Orbot / #TorBrowserBundle / @tails_live so their traffic gets through @torproject and doesn't provide any useable IP addresses.

  • I've literally been there and done that!

As for #Sustainability, providers like monocles.eu finance themselves by subscriptions (starting at €2 p.m.) which people can pay fully anonymous using #CashByMail and #Monero on top of common payment methods (i.e. SEPA wire transfer)...

  • So even if you think "#monocles is a #honeypot" that is mitigateable ciz unlike with Signal you can choose your own client, choose a different provider & exervise self-custody of all tue keys!
monocles.eumonocles searchmonocles search, powered by searx
#monocles#honeypot
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Hanse Mina

Russian counterintelligence agents are analyzing data from the popular Chinese messaging and social media app #WeChat to monitor people who might be in contact with Chinese spies, according to a Russian intelligence document obtained by The New York Times.

nytimes.com/2025/06/07/world/e

The Kremlin looming in the distance in February in Moscow.
The New York Times · How Russian Spies Are Analyzing Data From China’s WeChat AppBy Aaron Krolik
#Ukraine#Russia#China
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