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@jeffowski I'm with @lavaeolus here. When I saw the post I went "isn't that…?" and yes, it was.
Also, Peanut and Pepe are examples of fascists appropriating "neutral" things, not antifascists neutralizing or (successfully) converting fascist memes (even though Pepe's creator had some success in fighting back).
Use memes to your heart's delight, but when you use some nazi shit you will get pushback.

@Mabande @jeffowski
"Use memes to your heart's delight, but when you use some nazi shit you will get pushback." - that's 100% it

@TheOneSwit @l This is less of a "a right-winger used this template for meme once," and more of an "a literal nazi created the cartoon @jeffowski used as a meme template" situation.

@TheOneSwit *taps mic*
Hello? Is this thing on?
No snappy comeback about how habituating normies to nazi imagery and dog whistles is a Good Thing, achually?
Or did you realize that @jeffowski was not in the clear here?

@Mabande @jeffowski

Nazis will use evrything to defeat their opponents. They even use the democracy to defeat us. "Nazis" have build and used a lot of things, they will take evrything what they can to integrate it in their ideologie, dont let them.

@TheOneSwit Yes, nazis have made a lot of things. Like assult rifles. And it used to be encouraged to use assault rifles on nazis.

Problem is that if you take [comics made by nazis to spread nazism into the general population] and "co-opt them by saying something different", the main effect won't be changing minds about whether nazis are good or bad, but making people less likely to identify nazi propaganda: "That can't be nazi shit, I saw @jeffowski use it and he's not a nazi."

@Mabande @jeffowski How many people do you think know who exactly made that comic? and how many learned it from you?

@TheOneSwit @jeffowski Very few know its nazi origins, and you didn't until this thread.
Problem is that the author didn't just make this single comic, but has been prolific in churning out his racist vile shit, in his style (eg you would recognize any one of his other comics as similar to the one jeff used).
So now we've got a situation where Jeff introduces the art style of a nazi as an anti-theocratic / antifascist element, making it harder for us to push back on nazi shit.
"it's just a meme"

@TheOneSwit @jeffowski But go ahead: shoot the ones providing context.

@TheOneSwit Yes, and in this case it's when @jeffowski (and you) instead of just acknowledging that it's not the best thing to use nazi memes tries to silence the commenter(s) by attacking/disparaging.

It's not a bad thing that people get to know about and learn how to identify propaganda, so if this thread goes viral it would be pretty gosh darn sweet, bucko.

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@TheOneSwit @jeffowski … Yes, Lovecraft was racist, and there's no need to burn his books, but you have to realize some of his stuff can't be "co-opted" into something positive no matter how much you love them.

@Mabande @jeffowski it has to be co-opted into something other that's how they destroy evrything positive. they take it and make it into Nazi stuff. they say they are "Pro-Life" when they are against abortion, they say they are telling the truth by lying in your face. They win because evryone steps back and let them take what they want.

@Mabande @jeffowski

Tell the people to not use nazi stuff like Twitter

@TheOneSwit Yes, I've told people to not use twitter for some years now. Your point being?

Also, this thread isn't about nazis co-opting stuff. It's about @jeffowski claiming to co-opt nazi stuff.
The stonetoss comic Jeff used is literally nazi propaganda he claims to co-opt by putting cutesy labels on it.
How is this not registering with you?

@Mabande @jeffowski No it's just about you crying that you need a nazi discussion.

but i dont care any longer about your nazistuff.

@TheOneSwit @jeffowski Okay, so you're just dumb as a post.
Cheers 'n' ciao.

@Mabande @jeffowski@mastodon.worl Great last words.