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stateful beinganyone know of a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rustlang</a> or other <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rewrite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rewrite</a> of /usr/bin/env that i can drop into an <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/alpine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#alpine</a> container to get `env -S` ?<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/shell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#shell</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/busybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#busybox</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a>

Root MooseI kind of wish there was a version of Alpine that was libc based - just for desktop NVIDIA support really.<a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/AlpineLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AlpineLinux</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/Alpine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Alpine</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/NVIDIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NVIDIA</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/libc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#libc</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaosfem.tw/@freya" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@freya</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/@BrodieOnLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BrodieOnLinux</a> same with <a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@OS1337</a> ...It's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GNUfree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GNUfree</a>-ness is a goal, because it's a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#toybox</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> distro!<ul><li>I just haven't got the time to change it over from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GCC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GCC</a> to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LLVM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LLVM</a>...</li></ul>

Cassandrich<a href="https://mastodon.social/@bagder" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bagder</a> This looks like a bug in your host's stdlib. With <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> on Alpine I get an error for 018.1.1.1, as expected.

Root MooseNow that there is an 'open source' NVIDIA driver out there - will we see good NV support under Alpine Linux? Any rumours of it in the works? Is it possible with musl?Maybe I'm out of the loop - it exists? Pointers please.<a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/AlpineLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AlpineLinux</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/NVIDIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NVIDIA</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a>

NerdNextDoor :Blobhaj:GOOOOD NEWS EVERYONE! (/ref)<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bim</a> (although not in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kuroko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kuroko</a> fully but still uses Kuroko to an extent) and Kuroko itself work in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Musl</a> on a bare kernel! I'm only using <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BusyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BusyBox</a> and util-linux (which are the only non-Kuroko tools)! Everything including the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> kernel is compiled to Musl.I'm calling this Lunaris. Yes I reuse names from failed projects of mine a lot. This is very volatile. One wrong move and I need to remake the rootfs or the disk image or packages... I hate it.

NerdNextDoor :Blobhaj:Alright, alright. Get this.A <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> distro using nothing but <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kuroko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kuroko</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Musl</a>.Of course me getting Kuroko into Alpine community repos on edge inspired me to do this.Anything else the user installs is in a different language of course but the main system not including the kernel uses Kuroko… maybe except coreutils if I don’t want to write them into Kuroko.Is this even possible? Probably not, but I’m willing to find out. I mean Linux with Node.JS exists.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Technology</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Distro</a>

HistoricaLinuxInstall <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AlpineLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AlpineLinux</a> to run from USB thumbdrive on old computer, with only 2 Gb RAM. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#distro</a> review. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVKNHQ8C3WU" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVKNHQ8C3WU</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linuxindonesia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linuxindonesia</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/belajarlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#belajarlinux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/distroreview" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#distroreview</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linuxinstallation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linuxinstallation</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linuxreview" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linuxreview</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/historicalinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#historicalinux</a>

CassandrichGot some complaints the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> git server was sometimes giving errors from too much load. Load caused by abusive LLM scrapers hammering cgit. So I added frontend rules that apply a 10 byte/sec rate limit to client IPs hammering >5 requests per 10 sec for the duration of the hammering. Load average has plummeted. 😈

NerdNextDoor :Blobhaj:Oh great, it doesn’t boot. Init fails to launch.Is it because I used musl instead of glibc? I’ll never know because NO FUCKING ERRORS ARE OUTPUTTED.Someone, please tell me how to try make a distro with musl… I’m really stupid.Do I use another <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Distro</a> like alpine as a base or?<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Musl</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Technology</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Help" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Help</a>

NerdNextDoor :Blobhaj:Making a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Distro</a> from the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LFN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LFN</a> guide by MapleCircuit. (Great guy, search up the series <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LinuxfromNothing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LinuxfromNothing</a> and go follow him!!!)I’m using <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Musl</a> instead of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Glibc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Glibc</a> for funsies.I’m <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nerdy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nerdy</a> as shit, and that’s pretty cool.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Technology</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nerd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nerd</a>

CassandrichThought that would probably make me a lot more productive on <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a>, musl-cross-make, etc.:When there's an open issue that needs any sort of testing cycle feedback, scheduling real-time chat with the reporter or patch submitter to go through it until it's resolved.That's what just finally cleared some backlog on multiple longstanding musl-cross-make failures.

CassandrichHeads up maintainers: there's a static analysis tool Svace, and perhaps some AI-slop tool built on top of it, producing very wrong analysis. So far <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> has gotten 6 patch submissions based on it and they're all wrong and mostly unmotivated.In one case it claimed possible null pointer dereference when the code in question was already immediately conditional on the pointer being non-null.FWIW this is what Samsung uses to find and "fix" bugs in their fork of Android... 🤦

CassandrichDocument I was searching for in case anyone is curious:<a href="https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2024/10/19/3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2024/10/19/3</a><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a>

Natanael CopaNew <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/AlpineLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AlpineLinux</a> stable releases with security fixes for <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> and <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a><a href="https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.18.12-3.19.7-3.20.6-3.21.3-released.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.18.12-3.19.7-3.20.6-3.21.3-released.html</a>

ttyS1<a href="https://bsd.network/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/vulnerability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vulnerability</a> <a href="https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2025/02/13/1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2025/02/13/1</a> I guess <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/openwrt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#openwrt</a> and <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/alpine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#alpine</a> system should be all upgraded now once fixes are available.

Da Linux beardudeSo, from my notes:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/voidlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#voidlinux</a>: symlink a service's name from /etc/sv/ to /var/service to enable a service then sv up & down will become available for that service. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chimeralinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chimeralinux</a>: dinitctl, kinda like systemctl <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#devuan</a>: update-rc.d <service> default to get it on the runlevels, then enable/disable to do fun things. Only do update-rc.d remove when the package is removed from the system.. Gotcha<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#freesoftware</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#foss</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#debian</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dinit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a>

SpaceLifeForm<a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@lritter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lritter</a> You want C for the portability, but you always will need assembler too. You just want to keep the assembler to a minimum, to make porting easier.<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Coding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Coding</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Musl</a>

bram dingelstad :nb_flag:good news tho: <a href="https://gamedev.lgbt/tags/mimalloc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mimalloc</a> is Significantly faster than the stock <a href="https://gamedev.lgbt/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> allocator for <a href="https://gamedev.lgbt/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rust</a>, much like a recent blog post indicatedit just ran through updating 4k calendars, each probably requiring 100s of requests in a matter of TWENTY secondsthat's crazy, never had such a big "swap out a dependency and gain efficiency" type thing ✨

bram dingelstad :nb_flag:trying to exchange the <a href="https://gamedev.lgbt/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#musl</a> allocation with <a href="https://gamedev.lgbt/tags/mimalloc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mimalloc</a> and as it turns out, not a simple switch, flexi_logger immediately shat itself and brought down prod 😩reminder to not test in prod

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