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#holocaustdenial

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@kajedro : sorry, I knew.

If a message comes with an adorable pre-captivity photo, that image will *always* show a Jew. Most of the Jews mentioned in such messages are not recorded in the online database (victims.auschwitz.org/victims). Some are, but usually with incomplete (and sometimes plain wrong) data. You'll not find any feel-sorry pre-captivity photo's in that DB.

IMO it is a horrible disgrace that holocaust victims are being abused for #Hasbara - most boosters and retweeters simply cannot believe that maintainers of a former concentration camp would be that traitorous.

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Quoting Iris Leal on how Netanyahu and his allies are spreading antisemitic tropes:

Leal writes that #Netanyahu and allies have weaponized antisemitic propaganda against political opponents. Netanyahu stood beside Hungary's Orbán (who declared Soros an "enemy of the state") while his son Yair shared a cartoon depicting Soros as a lizard manipulating Netanyahu's critics—imagery that received praise from neo-Nazis. She argues that while Netanyahu's circle has accused Jewish philanthropists like #Soros and the Wexner Foundation of global conspiracies against Israel, they themselves may have been taking Qatari money.

[…] Soros, according to the right, is not just a political opponent, he also stands behind a global movement undermining the existing order. The speech Netanyahu gave during his visit to Hungary ignored the Hungarians' role in the murder of Jews, and as the Qatar affair explodes in the background with updates every half hour, one could remember György Schwartz, Soros by his familiar name, who was born in Budapest in 1930, and whose family members, as they say, pretended to be Christians during the Nazi occupation and helped save other Jews.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Hebrew haaretz.co.il/opinions/2025-04 or archive.is/inQm0

@israel
#antisemitism #holocaustdenial

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@EndIsraeliApartheid : they'd like everyone to think that condemning genocide is antisemitism.

However, they're confusing antisemitism with antizionism.

Antisemitism is prejudiced hatred of any Jew, regardless of what they did, their opinions or even their age (fsck any other made up definition).

THAT definition of antisemitism is what CAUSED the WWII genocide.

Zionism is what causes the genocide taking place in Palestine since 1948, intensified in Oct. 2023. Not of Jews, but of Palestinians.

Deliberately stating that antizionism is antisemitism implies Holocaust denial.

Actually twice: because of what I wrote above, and because of the "never again" message. We are repeatedly told to learn from the Holocaust, but apparently "never again" only applies to Jews - Zionists living in Israel in particular.

Apart from that, not all antisemtism is as bad as it seems (the picture below was transmitted often on Dutch TV - without the mitigating text).

It's a discrace for anyone with (partial) Jewish blood - like me.

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[cont’d] Minister Chikli defends inviting anti-Semites and Neo-nazis to his anti-Antisemitism conference​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[…] The State of Israel has wisely formalized its relations with several European right-wing parties, including the French National Union and the Spanish #Vox party. This is in light of their continued support for the Jewish people and the State of Israel following the events of October 7.'

Hebrew ynet.co.il/judaism/article/yok

@israel
@palestine
#holocaust #holocaustdenial #islamophobia

ynet · סערת נציגי הימין הקיצוני בכנס הישראלי למאבק באנטישמיותBy תמר שבק, איתמר אייכנר
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@vwdasher btw it reminded me that #Netanyahu also dabbled in #holocaust denialism. He tried unsuccessfully to claim it was the Palestinian national leader al Husseini pushed the Nazis to commit to the final solution. #YadVashem scholars were very quick to shut him down. I wonder why they don’t in Musk’s case. Maybe they should before he’s invited to Israel on a state visit again…

[…] Prof. Dina Porat, chief historian of Yad Vashem, called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's claim that Hitler did not seek to exterminate the Jews until his meeting with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem at the time, Haj Amin al-Husseini “completely erroneous, on all counts.”

archive.is/cuVWC

@histodons
@palestine
#holocaust #holocaustdenial

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@godpod yes because we have #polio rising in #Afghanistan and #Parkistan, and since all those pre-boomers who had classmates die from polio that #flexed their #trauma on #boomers into threats like "Get your kids vaccinated, or we'll disown you!" die of old age, so does the amount if #Antivaxxers who don't get hospitalized by a senior who bets them with their cane for polio denial...

Tucker Carlson interviews "historian" Darryl Cooper who believes that the Nazis weren't so bad and that Winston Churchill was the real villain rather than Hitler. Also, that holocaust thing, it was just a mistake ... Guess who retweeted it? His initials ae EM and he bought a large social media platform and ran it into the ground.

independent.co.uk/news/world/a

Wow, this is so far the worst case of distorting history I've seen when it comes to the specific topic of #antisemitism. This is on the same bar as #HolocaustDenial. ​:reimu_sigh:

These "pro-Palestinians" are literally going to ignore the fact that an ignorant German journalist in 1879 coined the term "antisemitism" as we know it today to exclusively refer to the Jewish people. That journalist didn't know that the "semitism" was supposed to refer to more than Jews.

Worse, the term "semite" and "semitic" as racial groups has long been obsolete and considered
#racist (think lumping together the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese under the "yellow race" because they look the same, it's similar to what is happening here with "Semitism"). So not only is #GLOSM / #PARES truly #antisemitic (no matter how hard they try to deny it), but is also subconsciously showing their #racism (or #orientalism) towards #Palestinians, #Jews, and other peoples of the #MiddleEast.

But what can you expect from a "non-profit entity" operating from the
#Netherlands. ​:cirnoShrug:

#Europe truly is a problematic and shameful place. ​:seija_coffee:​

#fediantisemitism #HistoricalRevisionism

RE:
https://mastodon.social/users/glosmpares/statuses/112456048225473067

MastodonGLOSM/PARES (@glosmpares@mastodon.social)Attached: 1 image How we view #antisemitism and #antizionism
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@ErikUden : IMHO we urgently need an unambiguous defintition of antisemitism; it is used all the time to justify actions such as in Berlin.

My understanding was that antisemitism led to the WW2 Holocaust. In that context, antisemitism meant hatred (or rage) against each of *all* Jews, purely based on prejudice.

I do not hate *all* Jews, but I've been called antisemitic twice (see infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat for more info).

I'm trying to find an unambiguous definition of antisemitism via this poll: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

I appreciate each vote!

Infosec ExchangeErik van Straten (@ErikvanStraten@infosec.exchange)I personally am particularly interested in the unambiguous defintion of antisemitism - please vote in https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/112258167685495755 . My reason for addressing this is that I have been called an antisemite in at least two occasions: 1) I disagreed with a Jew who stated that throwing a brick through a window of another American Jew, who had put a sign on their lawn stating "I stand with Israel", is an act of antisemitism (https://infosec.exchange/@0xamit/112141984187636204 ); in my dictionary that is an act of antizionism. As a result, eventually my account was silenced (which I successfully appealed to - a big thank you to the infosec.exchange mods for restoring my account!) 2) On March 10, pres. Herzog of Israel was invited to the opening of a new Holocaust museum in Amsterdam. I was protesting (amidst Jewish people) outside the synagoge where Herzog spoke. I was carrying a sign that read: My grandpa was a Jew. And now Gaza is a concentration camp I was there because Herzog was allowed to tell his audience that Isreal is "defending western values" by wiping out an entire population - pure propaganda that has absolutely nothing to do with the WW2 Holocaust, and effectively impairs or even denies its horror and insults its victims and survivors. Notably in Anne Frank's country, each genocide-protestor is now called an antisemite by nearly all of our political parties (in Dutch): https://www.christenunie.nl/nl/blog/2024/03/26/Gezamenlijke-verklaring-tegen-Jodenhaat (archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20240327080513/https://www.christenunie.nl/nl/blog/2024/03/26/Gezamenlijke-verklaring-tegen-Jodenhaat). IMHO, an unambiguous definition of antisemitism is fundamental to help stop the Gaza genocide. PS: existing definitions are too vague or completely ambiguous, such as: 1) "Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities." (with mutually conflicting and/or deliberately misinterpreted examples, taken from https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism); 2) "Antisemitism is prejudice against or hatred of Jews." (from https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/what-is-antisemitism). #DefinitionOfAntisemitism #antisemitism #Semitism #Zionism #antiZionism #Gaza #GazaGenocide #Warcrimes #CrimesAgainstHumanity #CrimesAgainstChildren #Herzog #Holocaust #HolocaustDenial
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I personally am particularly interested in the unambiguous defintion of antisemitism - please vote in infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat .

My reason for addressing this is that I have been called an antisemite in at least two occasions:

1) I disagreed with a Jew who stated that throwing a brick through a window of another American Jew, who had put a sign on their lawn stating "I stand with Israel", is an act of antisemitism (infosec.exchange/@0xamit/11214 ); in my dictionary that is an act of antizionism.

As a result, eventually my account was silenced (which I successfully appealed to - a big thank you to the infosec.exchange mods for restoring my account!)

2) On March 10, pres. Herzog of Israel was invited to the opening of a new Holocaust museum in Amsterdam. I was protesting (amidst Jewish people) outside the synagoge where Herzog spoke. I was carrying a sign that read:

My grandpa was a Jew. And now
Gaza is a concentration camp

I was there because Herzog was allowed to tell his audience that Isreal is "defending western values" by wiping out an entire population - pure propaganda that has absolutely nothing to do with the WW2 Holocaust, and effectively impairs or even denies its horror and insults its victims and survivors.

Notably in Anne Frank's country, each genocide-protestor is now called an antisemite by nearly all of our political parties (in Dutch): christenunie.nl/nl/blog/2024/0 (archive: web.archive.org/web/2024032708).

IMHO, an unambiguous definition of antisemitism is fundamental to help stop the Gaza genocide.

PS: existing definitions are too vague or completely ambiguous, such as:

1) "Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities." (with mutually conflicting and/or deliberately misinterpreted examples, taken from holocaustremembrance.com/resou);

2) "Antisemitism is prejudice against or hatred of Jews." (from ushmm.org/antisemitism/what-is).

#DefinitionOfAntisemitism
#antisemitism
#Semitism
#Zionism
#antiZionism
#Gaza
#GazaGenocide
#Warcrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#CrimesAgainstChildren
#Herzog
#Holocaust
#HolocaustDenial

Infosec ExchangeErik van Straten (@ErikvanStraten@infosec.exchange)Please boost! Antisemitism manifests itself via rethorical and/or physical violence towards: [ ] Any Jew, purely based on prejudice [ ] Specific Jews, for specific reasons, such as openly expressed opinions [ ] Both (please explain in a comment)